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 2/19/2008 1:45:46 AM
User is offlineDaryl
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Extreme Collecting

A while back I was amazed and impressed at how the folks from the Netherlands go collecting at a place called "Mill".  I'm not exactly sure what type of mining operation takes place there, but the pit these folks collect in is a giant mud puddle, with a big pipe that spews a muddy slurry mixture of mud which apparently contains some fossil material along with gravel etc.  By the pics posted here at BRF under Netherlands trips, you'll quickly see that the method of collecting requires some sort of screen.  Now, most of us have built ourselves a screen of some sort, I have a few box screens that I use all the time.  But this place isn't a an oceanside beach, or river, or stream.  These folks though have constructed a portable screen using a stretcher of some sort with wheels, and the method of collecting is to periodically dash in the "stream" of mud pouring out of the pipe, collect what you can, then pull it out to one side and begin searching through the muddy mess in the screen - no fresh water to sift with.  To see what I'm talking about, go look at the trip reports labeled "In the Mudstream 26/10/07" and "What a start for 2008".  Doing a lot of beach collecting I'm always amused at the variety of "sifting tools" that folks construct out of all sorts of things; snow shovels with coffee cans bolted to the bottom as scoopers, rakes with screen wrapped around the tines, etc.  I had never seen a stretcher though!  Ingenious!

This might not be dangerous like diving in the murky rivers with gators (which is either hard core or crazy), but how many folks in other hobbies go to this sort of extreme? 

How about you?

Daryl.

 

 2/19/2008 2:23:03 AM
User is offlinehemipristis
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Re: Extreme Collecting
I think I have one that might be called "extreme": A few years back, when I was in grad school, a few of us went on a fossil trip down Lumberton way, to a little-known locale (so little known that I don't think I could find it again), where the fossiliferous layer (Duplin Fm) was located 20 feet down from the top of a 75 foot bluff. To collect, we tied a rope around ourselves with the other end around some trees and essentially repelled down the bluff, swinging back & forth, pickin at the exposure. Things were going well for about an hour or two when one tree began to uproot, and one unlucky soul was plunged (sorta slowly though) down to the ground. Luckily, he landed well and just sprained an ankle.
 2/19/2008 2:32:33 AM
User is offlinehemipristis
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Re: Extreme Collecting
One more: When in undergraduate college, I did an internship with the Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh excavating and removing late Pleistocene land mammal fossils from pack rat middens inside a cave, at 10,500 feet elevation. Even though it was July, it dropped to freezing temperatures at night, and we had no shower--- we bathed in the glacial meltwater stream (shrinkage anyone?) that was full of leeches. Every day we hauled the equipment (including generators, lights & screens) several hundred feet into the cave, often crawling with one hand through tight squeezes while dragging the equipment with the other hand. Once inside the rooms, we excavated the middens, screening the material for bones. By the way, do you know what pack rats use to solidify & build their nests? Urine. Yum. Once dry, it has the consistency of honeycomb. So everyday we handled hundreds of pounds of rat pee to obtain our fossils. I have a video of my time there, and every time I watch it, I shake my head & laugh...ah, what we go through!
 2/19/2008 3:02:55 AM
User is offlineDaryl
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Re: Extreme Collecting

Hemi, your first account brings back memories of something my buddy and I almost did ourselves - repell down a cliff.  A few years ago there we thought we saw the remains of a whale jaw along Calvert Cliffs.  We had already found some of the teeth that came out of a pile of material that fell from the same spot.  The suspect jaw was located about 40 feet up the cliff face, or about 25 feet down from the top.  It's probably a good thing for us that there weren't any trees for us to tie up to, otherwise we might have gone through with it.  The funny thing is though that we joked around about who was going to repell down, while the other kept an eye on the rope etc.  How would we have shared the jaw?

I heard a few years ago that someone saw what looked to be a nice size Meg sticking out of the cliffs (again along Calvert Cliffs).  This person was certain it was a tooth, but didn't want to repell down the cliffs for it (I'm sure it's illegal to do that anyway).  Instead, this person decided to bring a gun (.22cal  or a CO2 BB gun I believe) and attempt to shoot around the tooth to make it fall out.  From what I hear, the supposed tooth turned out to be a shard of bone.  Man this sounds dumb, dumber than my idea of making a super long "pole" out of PVC or bamboo so I could reach stuff sticking out of the cliffs way up high - which I never did make because my friend thought I was nuts. 

Not that there's a contect or anything, but I think your rat pee story is in first place so far.

Daryl.

 2/20/2008 7:23:54 PM
User is offlinerock_splitter
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Re: Extreme Collecting
The story from Hemipristis talking about repelling down a bluff reminded me of a story from yester-year.  Some time ago when I used to live and hunt in North Texas, I got a tip about an area where I had been told there were some great cretaceous fossils to be found.  So, in my youthful idiocy I decided I was going to hunt there, no matter what.
I come to find out that it was about an 8 mile hike one way to get to the site, and then I found out it was going to require a 150' or so drop into the bottom of this 'canyon'.  So, a buddy and I drive as far as we can and do the near 8 mile hike, and then repel down into the canyon and do some digging and then I had to climb up out of the canyon on the rope, let him tie our equipment and backpacks with fossils on to the rope so I could pull it up and then he climbed up.  The hike back to the truck nearly killed me, but I survived.  And what did I find for all my effort?  A number of ammonites, and a variety of echinoids.  Was it worth it?  After all these years, I still debate what the true answer to that question is.
 2/22/2008 4:10:29 PM
User is offlineMartijn
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Re: Extreme Collecting

Hi Daryl,

Yes the collecting in Mill is quite extreme, but it is one of the best places in Europe to find sharksteeth in good/perfect condition. This way of collecting is quite save, before people were trying in with the regulair screens, this is much more dangerous because you are getting too close to the stream from the pipe, which also contains big stones or whale bones.

Although it must be very cool to tell people about going down the cliff with a simple rope to hunt for fossils. But do remember this, you maybe think you are only risking your life, but you are also risking that due to your actions a nice fossil location will be shut down and no longer open to all the other collectors, who collect the 'normal' way.

 

Greetings from Norway!

Martijn

 2/26/2008 3:41:33 PM
User is offlinebullshark
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this is your strectcher speaking
Hello Daryl and everybody else who enjoys hunting and collecting for sharkteeth and other fossils, this is my first time on this forum. I read about your reply on Mill collecting and the stretcher. I am the proud owner of that stretcher and i have to say it works well. I have used two years before but without the wheels. This season I made someone give it wheels and it works even better. It is realyy hard labour. But some times youc an find up to 13 (record)teeth in just one sift. The Mill teeth are really nice and especially the I. Escheri from Mill are amazing. Me and my mates(5) will visit this april the 26 South Carolina and we will stay in Summerville in a hotel. We come over to hunt for sharkteeth and stay for almost 14 days. If anyone of you shartkteethcollectors is interested in swopping teeth from Mill (miocene) or Egem(Belgium Eocene 52 million years, small but great quality, please do say so. Maybe we can arrange something. If interested in other fossils please ask maybe we can help. Greetings Bill.
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