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 6/9/2007 2:26:47 AM
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I'm looking forward to seeing the coin. Thanks for posting it.

 6/10/2007 6:21:14 PM
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I've added a couple of pictures in the gallery, obverse and reverse of the 1793 plus some other stuff. It's hard to get good pictures of coins with a cheap camera. Anyhow, for you BigRedMeg, a brief description. The date is clear, the word Liberty on the top is there but you have to look hard. On the reverse, the full United States of America is clear, as is One Cent. The fraction on the bottom is there but again you have to look hard. As mentioned in the description, the coin was hit by the plow but just grazed and it affected the patina pretty much right in the center of the coin. The edge is the vine and bars variety but they are hard to make out. The planchet is very thick. After finding this coin I became frinds with a fellow who metal detects and is extremely knowledgeable about coins in general and colonial coins in particular. He has all the necessary materials for attributing coins, and he attributed this as an S-8, rarity 3. Everyone who has seen this coin is wondering if I would be interested in a trade. . . . The pictures are on the bottom of page 4 in NJ Artifacts.
 6/11/2007 3:46:23 AM
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That's a really cool coin to find and so are the others. I purchased a British coin from the late 1600's from a relic hunter who found it in Gloster, Virginia. It's in decent condition with everything legible, even most of the date. I think I paid $20.00 for it. I asked him why it was so cheap and he said it was because it was a "damn foreign coin" and not a U.S. coin. I thought that was a strange thing to say considering that the U.S. did not exist at that time and in that line of thinking ALL coins were foreign coins. Thanks for posting the pics. You must have gotten some nice offers for the 1793 coin.

 6/11/2007 1:03:28 PM
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That certainly is a shortsighted statement by the relic hunter and you are of course absolutely right, the United States did not exist and so all coins were foreign coins. Don't think they were even looked at as foreign, they were just coins. Must have been a real difficult thing, figuring out the values of the various types of coins in circulation, difficult for both buyers and sellers. The most widely circulated and desired coins were the Spanish milled coins called Reales, made from the silver of the conquest of the Aztec and Inca empires. "Foreign"coins were legal tender in the young USA for many years. I forget now when they were finally outlawed by an Act of Congress, but it was well in to the 1800"s. I like collecting the various types of coins used in the colonies, also the coins minted in various states under the Articles of Confederation, and the large cents and half cents that were true US coinage. I've found 2 other coins, a 1719 George 1st and an 1816 large cent, whcih I'll get a picture of into the gallery soon. Appreciate your interest in this subject BigRedMeg.
 6/11/2007 1:51:05 PM
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I have far too many interests and know way too much about things most people don't know or care about. The Reale, also known as the piece of eight because it was actually chopped into eight pieces to make small change, was the model for the silver dollar. Thats why a quarter was sometimes called two bits. I always thought it was interesting that various foreign coins were legal tender even after the U.S. started minting it's own coinage. The coin values must have been based on weight??? I guess there just wasn't enough supply to meet the demand so they didn't have a choice. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a lot of resistence to the "new" coinage. In addition to the really old coins I also like the Carson City mintmarked coins. I just made a deal on getting an 1879 CC morgan dollar in the original GSA case with the numbered certificate and original mailing box. From the pics it looks like a MS 62 or MS 63. I'll be eating grass and tree bark for a while but I have always wanted one and it was a reasonable price. I would love to find an old coin under water but I doubt if it will ever happen. I guess I'll just have to stick to finding shark teeth.

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